Articles, Blog

Nightline episode on pro wrestling

August 10, 2019


>>>YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THAT ALL THOSE GRUNTS AND GROANS AND SLAMS AND CRACKS AREN’T FOR R WHY HAS PRO WRESTLING DECIDED TO TELL IT LIKE IT IS? THAT’S OUR STORY TONIGHT. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY K MART — THE SAVING PLACE, NUTRASWEET — WHY SO>>>THEY THROW EACH OTHER TO THE FLOOR. THEY POUND AND KICK AND STOMP, AND THEIR BLOOD CURDLING SCREAMS CAN BE HEARD FOR MILES AROUND. IT’S NOT ANOTHER LOOK AT THE SENATE FIGHT OVER JOHN TOWER. TONIGHT WE LOOK AT A FAR PO PRO WRESTLING. IT IS A $300 MILLION BUSINESS, FOUR OF THE TOP TEN CABLE TV SHOWS ARE WRESTLING PROGRAMS, AND LAST YEAR, EVENT, WRESTLEMANIA, FOUR, GROSSED $40 MILLION. STATE LEGISLATURES ARE BEING URGED BY THE BIGGEST OF ALL WRESTLING PROMOTERS TO THINK THE UNTHINKABLE TO TEA CLAIR THAT PRO WRESTLING IS NOT A SPORT AT ALL, PUT AN ENTERTAINMENT WHOSE OUTCOME IS ACTUALLY KNOWN BEFORE THE BATTLE BEGINS. WHY?>>>THEY ACT AS IF IT WERE REAL.>>WE’RE GOING TO PAY BACK MASTERTHE TAG TEAM TITLE.>>IT LOOKS AS IF IT WERE REAL. IT EVEN SOUNDS AS IF IT WERE REAL. WELL, GUESS WHAT, SPORTS FANS? THE SECRET ABOUT PRO WRESTLING IS FINALLY OUT.>>IT IS NOW OFFICIAL. WRESTLING IS NOT REALLY WRESTLING. WRESTLING PROMOTERS HAVE TOLD THEIR SECRETS IN AN ATTEMPT TO FREE THEMSELVES FROM THE HALF NELSON OF GOVERNMENT REGULATION.>>WAIT A MINUTE. WHAT’S THAT SHE SAID?>>IT IS NOW L, WRESTLING IS NOT REALLY WRESTLING.>>THAT’S RIGHT. THE WORLD WRESTLING FEDERATION RECENTLY TOLD NEW JERSEY LAWMAKERS THAT WHEN THEIR BOYS, WRESTLERS LIKE HULK HOE BEGAN AND THE IRON SHEIK BATTLE IT OUT IN THE RING, IT’S JUST ENTERTAINMENT. AN EXHIBITION. IN OTHER WORDS, THE MATCHES ARE D. SO WHY DID THE WORLD WRESTLING FEDERATION SUDDENLY ANNOUNCE THAT THIS IS ENTERTAINMENT? THE ANSWER IS INDEED MONEY. THE WWF SAYS ENTERTAINMENT SHOULD NOT BE REGULATED HERE IN NEW JERSEY OR ANYWHERE ELSE. AND WITH NO REGULATION, THAT COULD MEAN FEWER TAXES TO PAY, AND HENCE MORE MONEY IN THEIR POCKETS. IN THE U.S. 27 ATHLETIC COMMISSIONS REGULATE PRO WRESTLING, WHICH MEANS PROMOTERS AND WRESTLERS MUST BE LICENSED, MATCHES MUST BE APPROVED BY THE STATE, A DOCTOR MUST ATTEND EACH EVENT, AND EVERY WRESTLER HAS TO HAVE A PHYSICAL. IN RETURN, STATES CHARGE A 5% GATE TAX AND SOME COLLECT ANOTHER 5% TAX ON CLOSED-CIRCUIT BROADCASTS.>>I’M NOT KNOCKING THE COMMISSION. THEY DON’T DO NOTHING F THEIR PERCENTAGE. THEY TAKE OUR WHROOD PREPARE PRESSURE. WE KNOW WE’RE HEALTHY. THEY GET A BIG PERCENTAGE.>>CAMPAIGNS HAVE BEEN MOUNTED TO DEREGULATE PRO WRESTLING. WWF REFUSED TO TALK TO “NIGHTLINE.”IN CALIFORNIA A MAN DICK FLOYD, WHO HAS JUST REINTRODUCED A BILL TO REMOVE STATE CONTROL, WOULD. >>THE ONLY REASON THE STATE IS IN THERE IS GETTING THE LICENSE FEES FROM THE PROMOTERS, THE PARTICIPANTS AND ALL THAT IS FOR THE MONEY.>>SO HOW MUCH MONEY IS AT STAKE IN IN 198 THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA MADE $63,000 FROM PRO WRESTLING. LAST YEAR IT MADE OVER $300,000. ONE MAJOR REASON FOR THE 400% INCREASE IS THE RISING POPULARITY OF PRO WRESTLING AND THE INTRODUCTION OF EMA.>>WHAT YOU GOING TO DO WHEN HULKAMANIA AND THE NEW CHAMPION RUNS WILD ON YOU?>>WHEN THEY LAUNCHED WRESTLEMANIA ONE, IT MADE $255,000. NEXT WEEK IT PLANS TO MAKE $27 MILLION. IF DICK FLOYD’S BILL PASSES, THE GATE TAX ON WRESTLING WOULD REMAIN IN EFFECT, BUT THE BROADCAST TAX WOULD BE ELIMINATED, AS WOULD STATE INSPECTION OF EVENTS.>>THE WHOLE POINT IS BY VIRTUE OF THE COMMISSION BEING IN THE BOX OFFICE, THEY KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH REVENUE IS BEING TAKEN IN. SO IF YOU LOOK AT TAKING THAT PERSON OUT, WHO IS EVER GOING TO KNOW?>>BUT FLOYD FEELS THE STATE ATHLETIC COMMISSION DOESN’T DESERVE THE TAXES AND LICENSE FEES IT COLLECTS.>>YOU OUGHT NOT TO RUN A CHARADE OF SAYING THAT, LOOK, WE’RE LICENSING AND REGULATING SOMETHING WHEN WE’RE NOT. YOU DON’T LICENSE ENTERTAINERS. THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, WE’LL BE LICENSING ROLLER DERBY. WE DON’T LICENSE ROLLER DERBY. WE DON’T LICENSE ROCK CONCERTS.>>AMERICA, READ MY LIPS, I’M NO PHONY. IF WRESTLING IS ENTERTAINMENT AND BEATING UP PEOPLE IS THEIR WAY OF DERIVING ENTERTAINMENT, I’M ONE OF THE GREATEST ENTERTAINERS IN THE >>YOU THINK IS REAL OR IS IT FAKE?>>NO COMMENT.>>SOME OF IT’S FOR REAL, SOME OF IT’S FOR FAKE.>>YOU HAVE BEEN SITTING THERE AND WATCHING IT. WHAT IS IT?>>IT’S REAL FAKE.>>IS IT EVER. WE ASKED BRUCE BAUMGARTNER, WHO WON A GOLD MEDAL IN WRESTLING IN THE 1984 OLYMPICS TO SHOWHOW IT’S FAKED.>>RIGHT HERE YOU CAN SEE THIS GUY’S KNEES BEND. HE HELPS HIMSELF OUT. HE STRAIGHTENS HIMSELF OUT NICE AND RIGID AND PROBABLY PUSHES RIGHT OFF WITH THE ARM TO HELP HOLD UP THERE HE IS BALANCING HE IS NOT MOVING AROUND. THEN WHEN HE FALLS, BOOM, HE FALLS RIGHT ON HIS HANDS. THE MAT IS VERY CUSHIONED.>>I REALIZE THAT WRESTLING IS AN EXHIBITION, BUT IT IS A PHYSICAL AND SOMETIMES DANGEROUS EXHIBITION. IN FACT, WE HAVE HAD A DEATH — WE HAD A DEATH HERE IN GEORGIA IN THE RING.>>IN THE THE MIDST OF ALL THIS CONTROVERSY ABOUT DEREGULATING PRO WRESTLING, ONE STATE IS HEADING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. HERE IN GEORGIA THE FEELING IS WRESTLING NEEDS NOT LESS ATTENTION BUT MORE. THIS BILWHICH GOVERNOR JOE FRANK HARRIS IS EXPECTED TO SIGN WOULD FOR THE FIRST TIME PUT PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING UNDER STATE CONTROL. THE BILL’S AUTHOR, STATE REPRESENTATIVE DICK LANE, HELD HEARINGS WHICH REVEALED THAT CHILLING TACTICS THAT PROMOTERS FORCE THEIR WRESTLERS TO EMPLOY TO HIKE TICKET SALES.>>IF A PROMOTER TOLD YOU TO BLEED THAT NIGHT, THEN YOU HAVE TO CUT YOURSELF AND BLEED.>>JUICEING. THEY HAVE A SMALL BLADE, THEY HIT IT OVER THEIR FOR HEAD. THE BLOOD COMES OUT LIKE WHEN YOU SHAVE, YOU NICK YOURSELF, IT BLEEDS LIKE THE DEVIL, BUT IT DOESN’T LEAVE BIG SCARS.>>I JUST DON’T THINK THAT’S ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR. IN GEORGIA OR ANYWHERE >>IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON ATHLETIC COMMISSIONER STAN NACCARATO SAYS THE WRESTLERS NEED TO BE SUPERVISED. AWE WE HAVE HAD A FORMER RECOGNIZED WORLD CHAMPION IN THE WWF SLAP A GIRL IN THE A TOOTH. BACK IN THE HALL RIGHT OUTSIDE THEIR DRESSING ROOMS. I HAD TO APPEAR IN COURT WITH A MAN TO GET HIM — THERE WAS A WARRANT FOR HIS ARREST.>>0 CORRESPONDENT JOHN STOSSEL LEARNED PAINFULLY HOW IRRATIONAL A PRO WRESTLER CAN BEHAVE.>>I’L STANDARD QUESTION.>>STANDARD QUESTION.>>I THINK THIS IS FAKE.>>YOU THINK IT’S FAKE? WHAT’S THAT? IS THAT FAKE? WHAT THELL’S WRONG WITH YOU? THAT’S AN OPEN HAND SLAP.>>PRO WRESTLING HAS SHAKEN OFF THAT BLACK EYE, MOUNTING HOLLYWOOD STYLE EXTRAVAGANZAS THAT HAVE ATTRACTED MILLIONS OF ND TH THAT GO WITH THEM. THE CHAMPION PROMOTER, WITHOUT QUESTION, IS THE WWF.>>IT’S ALL A GAME. IT’S ALL A GAME THAT THEY ARE CONTROLLING. AND THEY’RE LAUGHING ALL TO.>>AND IT’S A BANK THAT’S BULGING. THEY GROSS OVER $300 MILLION, ENOUGH MUSCLE FOR ITS CAMPAIGN TO WIPE OUT STATE REGULATIONS AND POCKET ALL THE TAX MONEY IT CAN. I’M JAMES WALKER “NIGHTLINE.”>>WHEN WE COME BACK, SHOULD WRESTLING BE REGULATED OR NOT? WE’LL BE JOINED BY ONE OF THE BEST KNOWN FIGURES IN PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING, CAPTAIN LOU ALBANOA CALIFORNIA STATE ASSEMBLY MAN, DICK FLOYD.>>>HE IS, QUITE LITERALLY, ONE OF THE MOST FAMILIAR FACES IN THE WRESTLING WORLD, CAPTAIN LOU ALBANO HAS BEEN A PRO WRESTLER AND WRESTLING MANAGER FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS. CAPTAIN LOU HAS MANAGED CHAMPIONSHIP MATCHES AND HELPED WRESTLEMANIA CONCEPT. DICK FLOYD IS A CALIFORNIA STATE ASSEMBLY MAN WHO HAS ENTERED THE BILL TO TE WRES CALIFORNIA. HE JOINS US FROM LOS CAPTAIN LOU, YOU SPENT YOUR LIFE PROMOTING WRESTLING. NOW THE WORLD WRESTLING FEDERATION SAYS IT’S ALL A FAKE, IT’S NOT A SPORT HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FILE?>>WELL, JEFF, IT’S AWFULLY FUNNY THEY NEVER SAID THIS BEFORE. IF THEY SAY IT’S A FAKE, WRESTLING FEDERATION HAS CREATED THEMSELVES. HOWEVER, THERE ARE ALLIANCES LIKE THE NWA AND THE AWA, THERE ARE WRESTLERS LIKE BARRY WINDOM, THERE ARE FORMER WRESTLERS LIKE PIPER AND BRUNO SAN MAR CONTINUEO, SO IF THERE IS ANY FAKE INVOLVED IN IT, IF THEY SAY THAT, THEY CREATED THIS THEMSELVES. COMMISSION IN PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING FOR THE FACT THAT THE WRESTLERS SHOULD PROTECTED AND ALSO WHY SHOULDN’T THE STATE COLLECT REVENUE FROM US? I CALL IT A SPORT. YES -GS WE ADMIT THAT THERE IS SHOWMANSHIP ONAL WRESTLI. HOWEVER, THEY ARE TRYING TO GET BACK TO THE BASICS OF PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING IN E DON’T FEEL THAT THE WWF HAS THE RIGHT. IF THEIR MEN ARE FAKE, WHY SHOULD OTHER PEOPLE BE JEOPARDIZED AND WHY SHOULD OTHER WRESTLERS NOT HAVE A DOCTOR AT SIDE, NOT BE EXAMINED BEFORE THEY GO INTO A RING –>>CAPTAIN LOU, JUST A SECOND, NOBODY ARGUES THAT YOU DON’T NEED SKILL AND DISCIPLINE A WRESTLER, BUT THE QUESTION IS, IS IT SOMETHING LIKE A BALLET, LIKE THEAOR IS IT A SPORT IN WHICH PEOPLE GO INTO THE RING ANDDON’T KNOW WHO’S GOING TO WIN.>>I NEVER WAS A VERY GOOD WRESTLER. I PRIDED MYSELF AS A MA GOT BEAT IN THE RING, NO ONE TOLD ME TO LOSE. IF THE OTHER WRESTLER HAD ONE HAND TIED BEHIND HIS BACK, HE COULD HAVE BEATEN CAPTAIN LOU ALBANO, THE WRESTLERS AND THE OLD TIMERS, I BELIEVE THEY WERE TRUE WRESTLERS AND TRUE ATHLETES. YES, THERE WAS SOME SHOWMANSHIP INVOLVED IN PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING, BUT, AS I SAID AGAIN TODAY, THEY ARE TRYING, SOME ALLIANCES, LIKE THE NWA AND AWA ARE TRYING TO GET BACK TO THE BASICS OF WRESTLING. THATHLETES. WE HAVE COMMISSIONERS IN NEW YORK STATE WHO ARE TURNING AROUND. IT’S FOR THE BETTER OF THE BOYS. YOU SHOULD HAVE AN ATHLETIC COMMISSION AND THE STATE SHOULD HAVE REVENUE. WHY SHOULD P■ THE TOTAL PIE, EATING THE WHOLE PIE. I MEAN, WE’RE IN AMERICA. WE PAY TAXES. EVERYONE DOESN’T LOVE TO PAY TAXES, BUT THIS IS AMERICA. WE ADMIT THERE ARE THINGS WRONG WITH OUR COUNTRY, BUT ? WE TRY TO MAKE IT BETTER. THERE ARE THINGS WRONG WITH THE COMMISSION, BUT LET’S GO OUT AND MAKE IT BETTER. LET’S PUT SOME WRESTLERS ON THE COMMISSION. LET’S MAKE IT BETTER.>>LET ME ASK ASSEMBLY MAN FLOYD. WE REGULATE A LOT OF THINGS THAT AREN’T SPORTS, WE MAKE SURE STUNTMEN ARE PROTECTED, WE REGULATE A LOT OF THEATERS, EXIT SIGNS. JUST BECAUSE WRESTLING MAY NOT BE NEOUS SPORTING EVENT, CAN TAKEN LOU ALBANO HAS 700 STITCHES IN HIS BODY, DOESN’T THAT SUGGEST IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE DOCTORS AND RESIDENTS AT THESE EVENTS?>>NOBODY ST- SAYING NOT TO HAVE . I’M SAYING IF WE HAVE A STATE SANCTIONED LICENSED GAME, THAT’S WHAT IT’S GOING TO BE. WE NEED REGULATION IN BOXING, BUT BOXING IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT WORLD. THE REFEREE IS IN COMPLETE CONTROL. HE CAN STOP IT, HE CAN PENALIZE PEOPLE, ALL THESE SORT OF THINGS, BUT THE REFREE, STATE SANCTIONED, LICENSE UNDERSTAND LIFORNIA NOT TO SEE THE BAD GUY DO SOMETHING. IF HE GETS OUT OF HAND, THEY TAKE HIM — I HAVE SEEN THEM HIT THE REFEREE OVER THE HEAD WITH A CHAIR, THROW THE REFEREE OUT, THE FIGHT TAKES PLACE OUTSIDE AS WELL AS IN THE RING. THEN WE HAVE A GUY WHO TWO BY FOUR, ANOTHER GUY WITH CHAINS, A GUY WITH A GUITAR. THE REFEREE WATCHES THE GUY GIVE ANOTHER GUY A HAIR CUT OR TURN A SNAKE LOOSE ON THEM.>>JUST A MINUTE, SENATOR, THAT’S BASICALLY IN THE WWF. IT’S NOT IN THE AWA OR IN THE NWA, AND THEY ADVERTISE A GUY COMES IN WITH A TWO BY FOUR.>>WAIT A MINUTE, WAIT A MINUTE, ALBANO, DON’T RUN OVER ME LIKE THIS.>>LET ME FINISH.>>HE’S DOING THE GAME JUST LIKE THEY DO TO HYPE THE WRESTLING. HE IS INTO THE GAME.>>EXCUSE ME, GENTLEMEN. SOR FRIDAY NIGHT FIGHTS. I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR DICK FLOYD.>>I DID THE SAME THING.>>WHAT YOU SHOULD DO IS TRY TO GET IN THE RING WITH SOME OF THESE SENATORS WRESTLERS.>>I AM GOING TO GET CONTROL OF THIS IF I HAVE TO GET INTO A HA NELSON. ASSEMBLY MAN FLOYD,ONE QUICK QUESTION. UNDER YOUR BILL WE HAD A LAWYER LOOK INTO IT. HE TELLS US THAT IN FACT THE STATE WOULD NO LONGER COLLECT THAT TAX FROM CLOSED-CIRCUIT.>>THAT’S WROK.>>JUST A MINUTE, CAPTAIN LOU. CAN YOU MAKE IT CLEAR –>>THAT WAS A MISTAKE IN THE BILL, BUT THAT’S GOING TO BE CORRECTED.>>YOU HAVE NO INTENTION PUTTING MORE MONEY –>>THE GAME TAX, WE GET THAT FROM THEATERS. IF WE’RE GOING TO SANCTION AND LICENSE WRESTLERS, I WANT TO KNOW THOSE POOR GIRLS JUST A FEW BLOCKS DOWN THE STREET WRESTLING IN THE MUD, WHY THE HELL AREN’T WE LICENSING THEM? THEY’RE IN MORE DATHAN ALBANO WOULD BE IN THE RING.>>THAT’S ONLY IN YOUR OPINION, SENATOR. IF YOU KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING, YOU SOME ALLIANCES AGAIN TRYING TO GO FOR THE BETTERMENT OF WRESTLING, GETTING BACK TO THE AMATEUR STYLE THEY ADVERTISE.>>BUT IF YOU GET BACK TO THE AMATEURS –>>NO, NO, CAPTAIN LLOYD AND IF YOU DON’T MIND, WE PROBABLY NEED A TIMEKEEPER HERE. WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO PAUSE FOR A MOMENT, AND PERHAPS WE’LL COME BACK, AND WHEN AND IF WE DO, WE’LL BE JOINED BY FRANK DEFORD, A SENIOR WRITER FOR “SPORTS ILLUSTRATED”.BC WOY>>>CONTINUING THE QUESTION, ARE YOU SURE EDWARD RMURROW STARTED THIS WAY. FRANK DEFORD IS WITH US FROM NEW HAVEN, CONNECTICUT. HE IS A PRIZE WINNING AUTHOR AND HE TAKES PART IN OUR NEW YEAR’S PREDICTION PROBLEM TO FORECAST THE YEAR AHEAD IN SPORTS AND PROBABLY WISHES HE MAY BE SOMEWHERE ELSE. FRANK, I DO WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE MASSIVE APPEAL OF WRESTLING, THE FOLKS HA PAY THEIR $19.95 FOR A PAY PER VIEW PROGRAM, THE PEOPLE WHO GO TO WRESTLING, DO THEY IN YOUR SENSE, KNOW IN THEIR HEARTS THAT THIS IS A SHOW? DO SOME OF THEM BELIEVE IT’S REAL? WHAT ARE THEY WHEN THEY GO?>>FIRST OF ALL, I WISH I WERE ONE OF THEM. I THINK THERE WOULD BE NOTHING BETTER IN THIS WORLD TO BELIEVE IN A WORLD THAT’S ALL BLACK AND ALL WHITE AND ALL HEROES AND VILLAINS. I THINK IT’S WONDERFUL. I’M VERY JEALOUS OF THEM. I THINK SOME OF THEM UNDERSTAND THAT IT MAY NOT BE THE MOST CORRECT THING IN THE WORLD, BUT I THINK THEY PRACTICE WONDERFUL DENIAL, JEFF, AND IN THAT SENSE I THINK IT’S TERRIBLY BENIGN AND VERY, VERY NICE. ALSO, JEFF, I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU BECAUSE YOU’RE THE FIRST TELEVISION WRESTLING EM SEE TO GET THIS FAR IN THE PROGRAM WITHOUT GETTING HIT.>>THAT’S BECAUSE I’M SEVERAL THOUSAND MILES AWAY. NO DUMMYS HERE. IF THE FANS, WHO BOTH KNOW AND DON’T WANT TO KNOW THAT IT’S A STUNT IF THEY BECAME CONVINCED — CONVINCED BY THE WORLD WRESTLING LOBBY THAT THERE WAS NO MORE CHANCE TO BELIEVE, WHAT WOULD IT DO TO THE A BE — ATTENDANCE, DO YOU THINK?>>I DON’T THINK IT WOULD AFFECT IT AT ALL. I THK IT WAS LIKE THE PERSON WHO SAID WE OUGHT TO DECLARE THE VIETNAM WAR WON AND GET OUT. I THINK THE PEOPLE WILL FORGET IT AS SOON AS THE MATTER IS TAKEN CARE OF.>>MAY I INTERRUPT A MOMENT? WHEN THE SENATOR TALKED, HE WAS A LITTLE MISINFORMED. HE SAID THE STATE IS NOW GOING TO CHANGE THE BILL WHERE THEY REVENUE. WHY SHOULDN’T THE STATE RECEIVE REVENUE FROM A SPORT? I CALL IT A SPORT BECAUSE WRESTLERS ARE HURT, AND ANY WRESTLER THAT CAN’T AFFORD HOSPITALIZATION, YOU MUST REMEMBER, LIKE IN THE NEW YORK STATE ATHLETIC COMMISSION IF YOU’RE HURT IN THE RING, YOU ARE PROTECTEBY THE ATHLETIC COMMISSION. A DOCTOR CHECKS YOU BEFORE YOU GET IN THE RING. SUPPOSE PROMOTERS TELL US THAT THEY WILL TURN AROUND AND HAVE A DOCTOR THERE, ONCE THEY DEREGULAR YOU LIES THROUGHOUT THE NATION THAT WON’T BE. THE WRESTLER WILL NOT BE PROTECTED. THEY ARE ATHLETES. WHERE THE SENATOR SAID HE SAW TWO BY FOUR’S AND SNAKES IN THE RING, MAYBE THAT’S THE WWF’S WAY OF HAVING WRESTLING, BUT THERE ARE ALLIANCES.>>HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THE GORGEOUS LADIES OF WRES STPHRING THIS IS RIDICULOUS.>>GENTLEMEN, ONE AT A TIME.>>IT’S A GRAND ENTERTAINMENT. NOBODY ARGUES THAT.>>WE’RE TALKING ABOUT THE AWA, NWA, OTHER PRIVATE ALLIANCES SUCH AS TRANCEWORLD THAT ARE TRYING TO GET BACK TO THE BASICS OF PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING.>>IF THEY HAD, THEY WOULD BE MAKING THE BUCKS.>>ONE RULE, I DON’T KNOW — I KNOW I DON’T HAVE A BLACK AND WHITE SHIRT ON, TO GO ONE AT A TIME.>>LET ME ANSWER A QUESTION.>>I HAVE A QUESTION FOR LOU ALBANO.>>THIS IS THE LOU ALBANO, SHOW.>>ASSEMBLY MAN –>>THAT WILL DO IT FOR NOW, FOLKS. CAPTAIN LOU –>>YES.>>IF THE FANS WHO PAY THEIR GOOD MONEY COME TO BELIEVE THAT YOU GUYS ARE SHOWMEN AND NOT EN TKPWHAIJD A SPORT, DON’T YOU THINK THAT MIGHT DESTROY A LOT OF THE ILLUSIONS AND ALSO DESTROY THE GATE? MAY DESTROY THE ILLUSION, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO FEEL THAT WHEN I WRESTLE, WHEN PEOPLE BEAT ME, I WAS BEAT BECAUSE I WASN’T A GOOD WRESTLER. NO ONE TOLD ME TO LOSE. AS I SAID, IF THE WWF CLAIMS THAT IT’S A SHOW, PERHAPS THEY ARE SHOWMEN, BUT IT DOESN’T MEAN THAT EVERY WRESTLER IN THE WORLD IS A SHOWMAN.>>I GET THAT POINT. NOW ASSEMBLY MAN FLOYD, LET’S COME BACK TO THE BASIC QUESTION. I WANT TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO STATE IT IN THE CLEAR. A LOT OF PEOPLE GET HURT THE RING, RIGHT?>>YES. YES, THAT’S RIGHT. THEY DO IN ROLLER DERBY AND PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL, TOO. WE DON’T LICENSE THEM AND SANCTION THEM.>>IN PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL THE PLAYERS HAVE TO PASS A PHYSICAL. IF THEY DON’T, THEY CAN’T PLAY.>>THAT’S A LEAGUE RULE, NOT A STATE RULE.>>I’M NOT AT ALL CLEAR WHY, THOUGH, YOU’RE SAYING THAT PROFESSIONAL WRESTLERS OUGHT TO HAVE LESS PROTECTION THAN, SAY, PEOPLE WHO WORK IN CARNIVALS WHICH ARE REGULATED BYSTATES■■>>NO, NO, THEY ARE NOT REGULATED THERE IS NO LICENSING OF THE Y PEOPLE ANYWHERE THAT I KNOW OF. WHAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT, AND HE’S TALKING ABOUT DO YOU LOSE THE GATE OR OF COURSE NOT. ITLIKE GOING TO THE MOVIES. NOW WHEN ALBANO WAS WRESTLING, I WAS DOING A LITTLE GIG CALLED KOREA, BUT I KNOW WHEN I WATCH A WAR MOVIE THOSE GUYS AIN’T DYING, THEY AIN’T BEING KILLED, THEY’RE NOT BEING REALLY HURT, AND THAT’S THE SAME WAY WITH WRESTLING.>>THAT’S BECAUSE YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN IN A RING YOURSELF AND YOU DON’T KNOW, YOU’RE NOT AN ATHLETE. DON’T CRITICIZE PEOPLE WHO ARE ATHLETES.>>NOBODY IS CRITICIZING YOUR ATHLETIC ABILITY. I WOULDN’T EVEN CRITICIZE YOUR USE OF YOUR MOUTH BECAUSE YOU DO THAT VERY WELL.>>YOU DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB.>>GUESS WHAT, FOLKS? GUESS WHAT ASSEMBLY MAN, GUESS WHAT CAP AIN LOU, THIS VERSION OF THE LINCOLN-DOUGLAS TES MUST PAUSE FOR ANOTHER BRSERVICE>>>CONTINUING OUR CONVERSATION NOW WITH CAPTAIN LOU ALBANO, DICK FLOYD AND FRANK DEFORD. FRANK, QUICKLY, GRANTED THAT IT MAY BE BENIGN, A FORM OF ENTERTAINMENT, IS THERE SOMETHING BOTHERSOME ABOUT SPORTS ANNOUNCERS WHO PUT WRESTLING HIGHLIGHTS IN THEIR PACKAGE.>>I THINK IT’S AMUSEMENT. WHEN THE HARLEM GLOBETROTTERS COME TO TOWN, THEY’RE INCLUDED, SO I THINK THAT’S PERFECTLY APPROPRIATE.>>CAPTAIN LOU, VERY QUICKLY, ARE YOU WRESTLERS GOING TO GO TO TRY TO FIGHT THIS ACTIVELY, TO KEEP YOURSELVES REGULATED BY STATES AROUND THE COUNTRY?>>I THINK EVERY WRESTLER SHOULD GET BEHIND IT. THERE SHOULD BE A MISSION. THEY ARE VERY PROTECTIVE OF OUR BOYS, THEY PROTECT OUR A LIVING. THERE ARE ALLIANCES, AGAIN, AS I SAID THAT ARE GETTING PACK TO THE REAL WHATEVER THE WWF SAYS MAY BE ONLY FOR THEMSELVES BUT NOT WRESTLING AS AN OVERALL PACKAGE.ARE GREAT ATHLETES, AND THEY NEED THE PROTECTION THAT THEY CAN GET.>>ASSEMBLY MAN FLOYD, THE LAST WORD IS YOURS. WHAT’S TOF DEREGULATEING THE SPORT? WHO >>THE ONLY BENEFIT IS THE STATE IS NOT INVOLVED IN A CHARADE OF SOMETHING FOR THMONEY. IF WE’RE GOING TO REGULATE, IF WE’RE GOING TO LICENSE, WE HAVE TO LICENSE THE REFEREE AND HE HAS TO CHARGE. THROWS OUT OF THE RING –>>THEN DO IT.>>HE IS DISQUALIFIED.WAS G THE BACK OF BNO’S ■TRUNKS IN THE OLD DAYS AND THE REFEREE WAS ALWAYS LOOKING THE WRONG WAY, DISTRACT HIM. IT’S A GAME AND IT’S GREAT GAME. I HOPE IT C DON’T THINK THE STATE OUGHT TO PARTICIPATE JUST FOR THE WE’RE NOT PROVIDING NG THER. ‘RE JUST TAKE BEING THE MONEY.>GENTLEMEN, WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO. THAT’S OUR REPORT FOR TONIGHT. I’M IN

You Might Also Like

100 Comments

  • Reply Mohammad Hussain December 29, 2017 at 11:07 pm

    I just love how Captain Lou Albano defends pro wrestling to the death!

  • Reply Chris Cerovec December 30, 2017 at 12:45 pm

    lol, I love how Captain Lou defends pro wrestling as legit, it's called Kayfabe. Hahaha, the Senator knew how to grind Albano's gears 😂😂😂😂

  • Reply James Steevens December 31, 2017 at 8:43 am

    Wow a young Micheal Hayes lol

  • Reply James Steevens December 31, 2017 at 8:47 am

    That John Stassel footage is so classic!

  • Reply My 3 Son’s Dad December 31, 2017 at 12:40 pm

    Fucking Democrats always trying to fuck up everything. Times haven’t changed much. Just more liberal but pretty much the same old dribble.

  • Reply FLORIDA GATOR December 31, 2017 at 9:51 pm

    REST IN PEACE LOUIS ALBANO.

  • Reply 88' MikeTyson January 2, 2018 at 6:06 am

    When the FUK was this even a question??!!

  • Reply 88' MikeTyson January 2, 2018 at 6:10 am

    It’s plain as FUKN day it’s staged! Y they taking it so serious??!

  • Reply kevin spicer January 2, 2018 at 10:39 pm

    Lane and Floyd. What a couple of Dicks.

  • Reply Peter Isnardi January 3, 2018 at 12:33 am

    Very interesting that in the intro, just as the guy says "You mean wrestling isn't real?" they show an early shot of Mick Foley (as Cactus Jack), a man who would come to symbolize the very "realness" of wrestling…

  • Reply MikeDest January 3, 2018 at 5:46 pm

    Back when news places thought they were really on to something telling people it was fake. Also look at Captain Lou still kayfaben the whole thing.

  • Reply Ronny Sterling January 4, 2018 at 1:28 am

    Time to start slappin some more fake news media reporter sissies!!

  • Reply THE K-D-from A-D January 4, 2018 at 2:26 am

    nightline….guy says one at a time or else..LOL……now they have 5 panelists talking all at once on msnbc and cnn and all that…and its encouraged for chaotic reasons..LOL

  • Reply johnny tyler January 5, 2018 at 8:27 pm

    I remember watching this live and capt lous interview stuck to my memory

  • Reply Seal Dogg January 6, 2018 at 12:10 am

    Wow lol big difference between pre determined out come n it being fake u can't fake fall in on your back

  • Reply Solidus 316 January 6, 2018 at 12:29 pm

    Holy shit! McMahon exposed the business to save a few bucks.

  • Reply Matt F January 7, 2018 at 12:59 am

    Stossel, “I’m going to ask the standard questions”, proceeds to declare, “I think this is fake”, hows that a question idiot, I loved it back then when he got slapped and it’s still great to see it.

  • Reply Akuma4u January 7, 2018 at 8:50 am

    john stossel never asked a fucking question.. he made a statement.

  • Reply BamaDan197319 January 8, 2018 at 2:03 pm

    Vince McMahon didn't expose the business as scripted. This Nightline episode or Captain Lou didn't do it either. Hacksaw Jim Duggan and The Iron Sheik getting arrested for having cocaine while they were riding in the same car at the time they were feuding did that.

  • Reply StrongStyleNinja January 12, 2018 at 3:51 am

    This California senator would make a great asshole heel manager in pro Wrestling.

  • Reply King_Rob January 15, 2018 at 11:53 pm

    one of the buggest stories of the 1980s is if wrestling was real or not!!! lol

  • Reply The Real January 17, 2018 at 6:48 pm

    3:27 Michael Hayes lookin like Kenny Omega

  • Reply lame lame January 21, 2018 at 2:30 pm

    the ring is not soft.

  • Reply Paul Womack January 23, 2018 at 3:29 am

    Gotta protect the business, daddy!

  • Reply Javy C January 23, 2018 at 9:52 pm

    very cool footage to see all these years later. as a young kid, watching Wrestling on all the cable channels or in person, it was unimaginable to think that outcome was pre-determined. IMO, the WWF/WWE ruined pro wrestling. their obvious greed for every single dollar caused the demise of pro wrestling

  • Reply Name Here February 3, 2018 at 7:44 am

    I MUST BE MISSING SOMETHING BECAUSE BOTH THE SENATOR AND CAPTAIN LOU WANT WRESTLING TO BE REGULATED SO WHY THE FUCK ARE THEY ARGUING?!!

  • Reply Carl Lawton February 3, 2018 at 11:37 pm

    Just like the NFL

  • Reply James Faragoza February 9, 2018 at 3:05 am

    The mat is not very cushioned….

  • Reply deasttn February 9, 2018 at 10:21 pm

    It's real.

  • Reply Constant Collectors Corner/ RealEyeZ Music February 10, 2018 at 12:06 pm

    I rewatched a bunch of these,it's pretty sad how bad people wanted to find out if wrestling was predetermined,when it's obvious its a show,even when I was younger I knew it wasn't on the level,something was up,and truthfully made me love it even more.
    Best part in my opinion was.
    "Exhibition yes,but a dangerous exhibition"
    Perfectly said.

  • Reply Mario Ballantyne February 15, 2018 at 3:23 am

    [email protected] "The mat is very cushioned'

  • Reply Shane Shrimp February 21, 2018 at 3:08 am

    Growing up I kinda knew Pro Wrestling was fixed but I didn't care if it was because it was entertaining. I would never say it was fake because those wrestlers put their bodies through hell for our viewing pleasure .

  • Reply Cuntboy McCuntface March 5, 2018 at 2:34 pm

    Wrestling is so hot and gay, those muscular big men sweating with their gay ass fake punches and hot swollen cocks!

  • Reply Isaiah Winbrone March 6, 2018 at 1:37 am

    Wrestling is entertainment

  • Reply Isaiah Winbrone March 6, 2018 at 1:39 am

    Wrestling is scripted predetermined & choreographed.

  • Reply Olivier Bourque March 8, 2018 at 11:08 pm

    I admire Lou Albano trying to defend the "sport" that he loves.

  • Reply Jason Huntley March 11, 2018 at 4:45 am

    ecw was almost real fuck wwe

  • Reply wheelmanstan March 16, 2018 at 5:44 am

    respect

  • Reply Mark Jones March 17, 2018 at 12:52 am

    They should of just shut up about it not being real

  • Reply Mark Jones March 17, 2018 at 12:55 am

    Someone should of grabbed him and gave him a DDT

  • Reply bill darrell March 19, 2018 at 4:36 am

    figures a damn useless Democrat

  • Reply Greg Carney April 4, 2018 at 5:35 pm

    Wwf,made a farse out of wrestling,nwa,awa paid price

  • Reply Jay Le Blanc April 5, 2018 at 3:29 pm

    Hey Richard Floyd…..what the fuck is a GIT-TAR 13:07…

  • Reply Steven Cook April 8, 2018 at 11:53 pm

    RIP Captain Lou Albano.

  • Reply Jack Barrett April 11, 2018 at 6:13 pm

    Perhaps the only intelligent thing Jesse Ventura ever said: "How do you fake a bodyslam"?

  • Reply LostDutchman April 17, 2018 at 4:31 pm

    This wasn't even news in 1989. WWF just didn't want regulations.

  • Reply Al Slavinzki April 19, 2018 at 11:06 pm

    David Schultz – was that scripted?? That was sports entertainment what he did to John Strossal.

  • Reply Todd-Shaggy G April 20, 2018 at 4:05 am

    Capt Lou keeping kayfabe till the end !!

  • Reply DuckTalesWooHoo1987 April 23, 2018 at 4:05 am

    Am I the only one who thinks it's funny to see wrestling in an outside context? It's just funny to see all these fancy reporters trying to talk about wrestling.

  • Reply The Jerk April 24, 2018 at 7:50 pm

    The fact that they had to debate this. I used to love wrestling when I was a kid in the 80s I knew it was a work when I was 5/6 years old. Hell i watched it into my teens in the 90s I still respected what these guys did and oh themselves through to entertain.

  • Reply hatednyc April 25, 2018 at 5:28 am

    1:35 Color, Gigging, Juicing, Blading. That’s what they use – Shocked they showed it here! Get a little COLOR in your Life!! 🌈 I love that Assemblyman (?) from California incorrectly explaining how it works. It’s very little blood what you’re seeing is sweat mixed with it – when done correctly anyway…

  • Reply Shannon Nishimura April 29, 2018 at 8:22 pm

    CNN will have to call themselves News Entertainment

  • Reply Jermaine Perkins May 7, 2018 at 10:46 pm

    CNN is fake as well LOL

  • Reply Jermaine Perkins May 7, 2018 at 10:50 pm

    Vince jr fucked up wrestling
    now the ratings are showing it these days
    RIP WWE

  • Reply basterd Hayes May 10, 2018 at 1:05 pm

    No shit wow people were dumb I mean they are know but wow

  • Reply 60BloodyChamp60 May 17, 2018 at 5:31 am

    Take a lesson from Lou on promos everybody. He knew what was up, but you couldn't tell by the way he talked!

  • Reply Delta Operator May 24, 2018 at 1:48 am

    Even it was real, it would still be entertainment. These people are just retarded.

  • Reply Brian Dixon July 1, 2018 at 2:59 pm

    Wait ……wrestling is fake?

  • Reply Mark Bowman July 4, 2018 at 11:26 pm

    The day pro wrestling died, when NY went in front of the state athletic commission.

  • Reply Jeremiah Gibbs July 11, 2018 at 7:01 pm

    It may be fake but it's still entertaining

  • Reply Thomas Donohue July 20, 2018 at 2:37 pm

    The bullshit is mega fake now and no longer fun to watch. I love the old NWA of the 70s and 80s. It was fake but the wrestlers were great showmen and got down to the nitty gritty

  • Reply Wayne Tolman July 20, 2018 at 10:37 pm

    Floyd was a dick

  • Reply Tim Allen July 29, 2018 at 12:42 am

    That 20/20 show exposed wrestling 5 years before this, but at least Dr D slapped the dog shit out of one of their reporters, helping the business save face, but after this, I rarely watched it anymore. It's hard to suspend disbelief when they admit it's fake.

  • Reply Madsmore August 14, 2018 at 6:18 am

    RIP Peter Jennings. We need journalists like him now more then ever.

  • Reply RedneckSpaceMan August 21, 2018 at 2:28 am

    Captain Lou! He was serious, logical and very articulate. We're all used to him acting crazy!

  • Reply MR Bank Fisherman September 3, 2018 at 4:49 am

    Wwf ruined it for AWA and NWA those were the really good ones than WCW. everything after that was crap including wwe

  • Reply PlagueInfected - 8492nd Fighter Wing September 3, 2018 at 11:19 pm

    dick lloyd looks alot like cheney lol

  • Reply Adam Hicks September 11, 2018 at 5:06 am

    albano is a total jerk in this "piece"

  • Reply USA ALWAYS September 12, 2018 at 3:11 am

    Squared circle ! Wooooooooo. Brother

  • Reply Tony Montresor September 15, 2018 at 3:46 am

    16:02: Max Headroom impression?

  • Reply Demar Fowler September 17, 2018 at 10:35 pm

    The goal of any "theatrical performance" is to make you "temporarily suspend your disbelief". The fact that wrestling is often performed live, and create characters who – when successful – you either pay to cheer for or see get their butts kicked is what blurs the reality line. Yes, we know that it's scripted. So is every other TV show. Here's what is real. People on the job do get injured, promoted, demoted, hyped, mis-used, given crap gimmicks, and given great exposure. Federations can be co-operative or competitive with each other. Quite frankly, I find the behind the scenes stuff as fascinating as the athletics on the mat. It's ……. entertaining.

  • Reply Komoto Davis September 21, 2018 at 3:03 pm

    I started figureing it out at ten

  • Reply Ryan Applequist September 23, 2018 at 1:03 am

    Fucking people just enjoy the althleticisim and the story telling in the ring. These guys put their body on the line for people to have a good time.

  • Reply Tom Evans September 25, 2018 at 2:15 pm

    Yeah, nobody told Captain Lou to lose… just to "put people OVER."
    What a fucking LIAR.

  • Reply joe winkler November 10, 2018 at 8:33 pm

    They were to cheap to pay athletic commission there dues so Vince let the cat out of the bag

  • Reply 802redneckinc December 10, 2018 at 2:04 am

    That open hand slap weren't fake lol

  • Reply Chris Hannafey December 12, 2018 at 3:41 pm

    Like to hear this dikwad say "miles away from dummies " who slap reporters to Dr. D

  • Reply TheMedia-Hacker December 25, 2018 at 1:58 am

    The BEGINNING OF FAKE NEWS

  • Reply Jason William December 27, 2018 at 2:51 am

    I could watch this for days. Great video!

  • Reply G P December 30, 2018 at 12:07 am

    I found out wrestling was fake when I saw Kevin Von Erich drive into the parking lot fine then saw him come out with his arm in a sling saying he was injured by so and so a few nights ago in Ft Worth lol – still loved it regardless i miss 80's wrestling

  • Reply Chris Wyatt January 11, 2019 at 12:47 am

    Of course some of this stuff is real I'd like to see some of these reporters get put in the piledriver got to be in shape to take some of these moves.its dangerous as it can be let a 160 pound man get in the ring in 2 minutes after they shit in there pants crawling across the ring crying screaming no more please no more, its fucking not fake like we thought. Very physical sport ,or a fake but painful sport. That's why they got all these crazy highflying moves mess up one time could cripple your ass.

  • Reply Disorder Liberalism January 15, 2019 at 1:22 am

    They look like they’re working, they seem like they have our best interest in mind, and they appear to represent their constituents. Of course, I’m talking about these phonies called politicians.

  • Reply Kevin Odom January 17, 2019 at 2:46 pm

    Hold up. Wrestling is fake?

  • Reply Greedy D January 29, 2019 at 1:01 pm

    Vince wanted to save a few bucks

  • Reply Aussie Nate February 10, 2019 at 1:31 pm

    🤣🤣I love the DOC 👋👋it’s this fake 👋👋

  • Reply Carlos Limon March 10, 2019 at 6:07 pm

    The guy who won a gold medal in the ‘84 Olympics, did he win it with a broken freaking neck?

  • Reply brad hoke March 31, 2019 at 4:25 am

    Wwe had to admit it was fake to avoid the drug testing from the athletic commisions

  • Reply Troll Em April 11, 2019 at 2:13 am

    How dumb are these reporters and The News if they need a guy to analyze it and tell them what's going on. If someone keeps getting punched, kicked slammed, what happens? They'll be knocked out and in the hospital.

  • Reply Wally Palmer April 22, 2019 at 8:54 pm

    Come on people, everyone knows this is fake…I mean really, in what world would there ever be a Democrat senator who didn't want to take money he wasn't entitled to? PS, mad respect to Captain Lou for keeping kayfabe alive! I miss those days!

  • Reply Norman Carr April 25, 2019 at 10:56 am

    Vince just had to open his big mouth and ruin the sport I idolized as a child.Now Pro Wrestling struggles to survive in a world that dose not believe in it.

  • Reply babalon 777 May 4, 2019 at 5:13 am

    This is so fucking infuriating watching these rabid fucktards deliberately misunderstand the whole concept of wresl…"sports entertainment". Thank you Lou, it's really none of their damn business and things have been basically the same since promoters realised the crowds have a better experience with a controlled outcome.

  • Reply channelofstuff May 5, 2019 at 10:47 pm

    vince should of just paid the sport tax then he could of bullshitted it was real

  • Reply RSR423 May 8, 2019 at 2:10 am

    Lou Albano, every time he opens his mouth, you realise what a fucking retard he really is.

  • Reply NPC #303 May 9, 2019 at 5:48 am

    "Laughing all the way to the bank" yeah and mocking god as much as possible and pulling as many people away from god and into the hands of lucifer as they can along the way.

  • Reply Jah Will B Dunn May 27, 2019 at 12:24 am

    This was beginning of end to escape state commissions grasp 😓

  • Reply John Lancaster May 28, 2019 at 1:02 am

    People who call wrestling fake have never been in a wrestling ring. Some of the action can be brutal.

  • Reply Freedom Lover July 5, 2019 at 7:27 am

    Im still waiting on my transcript that I bought for $3.

  • Reply sgord051 July 17, 2019 at 4:35 am

    Lou just filabusters, the senator is great. He actually has a clue.

  • Reply Tarryl Rosier July 31, 2019 at 4:41 pm

    Capt. Lou was a real OG. He never broke Kayfabe.

  • Reply sean mills August 2, 2019 at 2:11 pm

    Why was Nightline even covering this?

  • Leave a Reply